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Here’s a pretty sobering article about a poll taken of Muslims in our own country.
The first nationwide survey of Muslim Americans revealed that more than a quarter of those younger than 30 say suicide bombings to defend Islam are justified, a fact that drowned out the poll’s kinder, gentler findings suggesting that the community is mainstream and middle class.
“There are trouble spots,” noted Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, which conducted the survey of 1,050 adult Muslim Americans — two-thirds of whom were foreign-born — January to April. The results were released yesterday.
“We should be disturbed that 26 percent of these young people support an ideology in which the ends justify the means,” said Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, chairman of the Arizona-based American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
“But the survey also found that only 40 percent of the overall American Muslim population would even admit that Arabs were behind 9/11. They’re in denial, refusing to take moral responsibility, and the radicals will feed on this,” Dr. Jasser said.
Farid Senzai of the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding said he had “concern” about evidence of youthful radicalism.
The revelation that some young American Muslims condone violent bombings led coverage from CBS News, the Associated Press, Reuters, the Detroit Free Press, the Los Angeles Times and other news organizations.
“I’m not surprised that the press picked up on the bad news, because that’s what sells. I’d like to see another ethnic group get asked the same question,” said Laila Al-Qatami of the District-based American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee.
OK then, let’s ask Jews, Catholics, Protestants of all branches, Hindus, Buddhists and any other religious group I’ve left out and see what their answers would be.
In addition we’ll ask all Italians, Irishmen, Japanese, Chinese, Latinos, American Indians, Indians from India and every other ethnic group that isn’t Arab or Muslim and compare notes. Bet you lose.
The point is, Laila Al-Aqtami, two wrongs don’t make a right and it was people of your faith who were asked and who answered the question.
Perhaps you’d better get to work teaching the peace in your “religion of peace” or we’ll likely see car bombs by your “peaceful” co-religionists here in America and it will be all our faults.
This is getting tiresome.
Written by ~J~
Barb Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 amVisit Barb
Hi J!
Alarming article! and not really surprising. Solutions?
We need the Lord’s help, for sure.
~J~ Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmVisit ~J~
Hi, Barb!
Glad to see you! It is alarming and not surprising to those of us who have seen it coming all along, but we still have a lot of people in denial and won’t admit it until/unless it happens. I pray they and we never have to find out.
This is a spiritual battle between good and evil, for sure. Christians see it that way and I’m sure the Muslims think they wear the white hat too, but I just cannot conceive of God being as evil as what that faith teaches.
jh Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmVisit jh
First off I do think there are some things in that article that need to be monitored. I shall return to this in a bit. I so ask this. I think some balance nneds to start being had in the msm and the press. THe AMerican Muslim community is the ears and eyes for our Intelligence agencies. Who knows how many plots have been averted because of good American Muslims doing their duty. At some point that should recognized and when that happens it is also encourged.
We talk about Fort Dix but if one reads the Affadavit for the arrest you will notice the FBI got two informants in. Chances are they were muslim. Things got hairy on several occasions when the terroist suspected they were working for the feds. Little things to keep in mind. We just at times get to see glimpses of what is going on. Now on the survey
First it is ashame that we do not responses and their breakdowns by Country of Origin and the Variant of Ilsam they practice. Despite all the information we have available to us I find that many Americans still have no clue about Islam. They think it is all the same. Forinstance could you be blamed if you were a Methodist in the 1800’s or some early form of that and an Orthodox Christian killed lets say a Moslem. OF course not. We need to start seeing that not all Islam is alike. It is the same as saying all Christians were the same in the 1600’s which of course they were not.
This is the Msnbc article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18797530/
“While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.
That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely”
Ok does that put it in better focus.
First the question is What does “TO Defend Islam mean”.
I suspect that means different thing s to different people. That should have been phrased more precisely.
A quick note on 9/11. How can we cast stones when a great many democrats and I hate to say on the extreme loony right think that Bush was behind 9/11 or knew about it. Does anyone find that more disturbing. Could American Moslems be picking this up? Have we forgot that poll that was taken just a a couple of weeks ago on that?!!!
Latly ask this question. In order to defend America was the atomic bombing of Japan justifyed as well as the fire bombing of Dresden. Whoa don’t kill me yet. BUt if you think about it it is not so clear. I hear all the time they started it so got it coming to them. In other words we were in in a “defensive ” war. It sounds like the question that was asked the Muslims. The Catholic Church has said that such actions as that cannot be justifyed. Eishenhower and MCarthur were horrified. Generals resigned. Truman even admitted that it was the murdering of innocent women and children. The Japanesse to this day are horrified by it. Much of the World thinks that in hin site it was something that can’t be justifyed. YEt if we took a poll I bet the majority of Americans would say heck yeah it was in the “defense of America”. The point of this is that the question is a lot more complex than we think it is at first.
I am just saying we would should not jump to conclusions. We need to find out what communities think this and why. LEts us not paint all AMerican Muslims with a wide brush. It is easy to do but doesn t get us more close to what we should be looking out for
Lastly , my Grandad fought in the Pacific and was the first to Enter Japan. His reservations were what got me thinking about the above “atomic bombing scenario” that I used. I don’t want this thread to become all that. But we have had a lot of discussions on it and even once related to terroism and when is Cilvian death justifyed or not. I just wanted to clear that up
jh
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~J~ Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 5:12 amVisit ~J~
jh,
If I had had my choice we would have defeated the Japanese in a conventional way. The argument we have always heard is it saved American lives by using the A bomb on them.
Somehow melting someone into the concrete doesn’t appeal to me, but it and Dresden happened and I can’t change either.
If nearly a third of Muslim men under the age of 30 in this country say it is justified to use car bombs to defend Islam I don’t know and I don’t care whether they are Shiite or Sunni. These are the men of the age to be able to do something like this. What are they teaching their children?
How many more will say the same thing in ten years if the act hasn’t already been done?
Yes, someone had to be or at least look Arabic to infiltrate the Fort Dix gang and I’m grateful to them for what they did at the risk of their own lives.
Your points are well-taken, but I don’t now nor ever will, trust the fanatics of the “religion of peace”. What we did in Japan and Dresden were one shot deals (2 cities in Japan) and we never did that again. How many car bombings do we hear about daily and how would you like to be at a mall and walking to your car when a car bomb went off?
It gets a little personal with me because I can envision these “peaceful” people doing it in this country if it came down to it.
Barb Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 7:58 pmVisit Barb
I’d forgotten, J., that I had visited and posted here! I must be losing my small mind!
The problem with Islam is that they are not brave where each other is concerned. Either down deep, they all believe that history must culminate in a Muslim theocracy, world gov –OR they are just too afraid to criticize the radical elements –not always knowing who they are. I get a sense that they have to “watch their backs” at the mosque!
OTHERWISE, WHY DON’T THEY GET OUT THERE AND GIVE US A CLEAR MESSAGE OF THE PEACEFUL LOVE OF ALLAH AND HIS DESIRE TO SEE PEOPLE LIVE IN PEACE! No, instead, they are, in America, raising at least one of 4 of their kids who is brave enough to say he believes in suicide bombing.
I think the crusades story -and the Abraham and Ishmael story –have been told and retold as a reason to hate Jews and the West. How else could they get so many nutcases to sign up for suicide bombing???
~J~ Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 9:03 pmVisit ~J~
Except they think Ishmael was the Isaac figure and not the other way around. Remember God told Ishmael He would make him a great nation also, but the sons would always battle each other.
By the way, when you sign in to post just use your name in the name section and your email in the email section. That way your email remains private.
Barb Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 9:25 pmVisit Barb
I thought they did realize that Ishmael and Hagar were made to leave –and go into the wilderness –and believed that God sent a caravan? to help them? That their resentment of Jews goes back to the preference for Isaac over Ishmael? NO? that’s what I got from my Muslim washing machine repairman –who also asked me –why do Christians like the Jews (I had a Jews for Jesus brochure) –since we believe the Jews killed Christ, he said. I explained that we see the Jewish history as our history –as the history of all mankind –we were all sinners –we all needed a Savior –and Jesus came through the Jews to die to save all who would respond in faith and repentance.
~J~ Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 10:31 pmVisit ~J~
They know they were made to leave but they say it was Ishmael who went up the mountain with Abraham and not Isaac and the blessing on Isaac was actually on Ishmail is what I’ve read.
If only Sarah had believed… Then again if only Eve had believed… It’s always the women.
~J~ Says:
May 24th, 2007 at 10:41 pmVisit ~J~
If I’m not mistaken Ishmael was with Isaac at the burial of Abraham. He also had 12 sons as Jacob did, and his daughter supposedly married Esau, Jacob’s older twin whose blessing and birthright he took.