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I’ve been reading some conservative web sites and I thought our country had just been attacked.
I had to have a portrait taken for our church directory and on the way back the host of the talk show on at the time must have had every vein in his head and neck bulging to the point of bursting because cloture passed. Oh, and all those Republican senators should be voted out.
Then I heard the news and I heard Harry Reid say in order for the immigration bill to pass he needed 25 Republican votes. I went over here and counted twice. If my eyes haven’t deceived me I have counted 24 Republicans who voted for cloture. That’s one shy of what Harry Reid says is needed, and many said they would vote for cloture but not vote for the bill.
So, the bill hasn’t come up for a vote except for cloture, some Republicans who voted for cloture will vote against the bill, and we still have to get it passed in the House if it passes the Senate.
Am I missing something here?
Someone please tell me if I should be upset over a cloture vote when no final vote has taken place and when the House hasn’t taken up the bill yet. I’m all eyes and ears.
Written by ~J~



Big Mo Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 6:30 amVisit Big Mo
Have they all turned into John Kerrys? (I voted for it before I voted against it)
What a mess. What this ultimately proves is that there are no great statesmen right now.
~J~ Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 10:31 amVisit ~J~
I think we already knew there are no statesmen right now, Big Mo. At least I don’t see any.
~J~ Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 10:32 amVisit ~J~
Mo,
When you come back maybe you can tell me why voting for cloture is something everyone is so opposed to when the bill hasn’t been passed and once some of the amendments are shot down will lose supporters.
Big Mo Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 11:49 amVisit Big Mo
not a clue, other than it seems some don’t want any vote for any reason.
~J~ Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 11:52 amVisit ~J~
And that just shows how spoiled we as a nation have become. Scream loud enough and you’ll get your way. Kind of like an undisciplined 3 year old who holds his breath.
Ayschlay Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 5:15 pmVisit Ayschlay
I’m hearing attributes of “great statesmen” in the comments of J and Big Mo.
One is the ability to be bipartisan.
Another is to be transparent about legislation–vote up or down on the merits of the bill, not for other political considerations.
Another is the refusal to give up on loyal subordinates, or to give up on past decisions, no matter the consequences.
A fourth is implied–there are certain policies that great statesmen would push–like this immigration reform.